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		By: XhanLuIsOfficial		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 23:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-52483&quot;&gt;holmpage&lt;/a&gt;.

Indeed, for some of these I really like doing partial designs, stopping the pen before it gets back to the start. I counted another gear to have 83 teeth. 
Also, the first ratio was actually 80/133, and not 79/132. Oops on my end.
Another Cheap Spirograph that I found has a ring of size 96 (Compatible with normal spirographs) and has 3 gears of size 63, 52, and get this, 36.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-52483">holmpage</a>.</p>
<p>Indeed, for some of these I really like doing partial designs, stopping the pen before it gets back to the start. I counted another gear to have 83 teeth.<br />
Also, the first ratio was actually 80/133, and not 79/132. Oops on my end.<br />
Another Cheap Spirograph that I found has a ring of size 96 (Compatible with normal spirographs) and has 3 gears of size 63, 52, and get this, 36.</p>
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		By: holmpage		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 16:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-52482&quot;&gt;XhanLuIsOfficial&lt;/a&gt;.

The gears in the official Spirograph must have been carefully selected to (mostly) give patterns that weren&#039;t so dense. Prime numbers like 79 wouldn&#039;t, when you look at the math of it. 

I&#039;ve seen cheap sets for sale online, so it&#039;s disappointing that they aren&#039;t necessarily compatible with the official sets. Thanks for sharing about that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-52482">XhanLuIsOfficial</a>.</p>
<p>The gears in the official Spirograph must have been carefully selected to (mostly) give patterns that weren&#8217;t so dense. Prime numbers like 79 wouldn&#8217;t, when you look at the math of it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen cheap sets for sale online, so it&#8217;s disappointing that they aren&#8217;t necessarily compatible with the official sets. Thanks for sharing about that.</p>
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		By: XhanLuIsOfficial		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is cool. I found this cheap Spirograph that had five gears (1 oval) and two rings, one of which had 132 teeth (Smaller teeth, not compatible with Official Spirograph gears). Also, I counted one of the wheels to have 79 teeth. It draws almost a 5-pointed pattern, almost like 63/105, but lands one tooth off at the end, so it creates gradually a dense design.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is cool. I found this cheap Spirograph that had five gears (1 oval) and two rings, one of which had 132 teeth (Smaller teeth, not compatible with Official Spirograph gears). Also, I counted one of the wheels to have 79 teeth. It draws almost a 5-pointed pattern, almost like 63/105, but lands one tooth off at the end, so it creates gradually a dense design.</p>
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		By: xavier		</title>
		<link>https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-70</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2020 09:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Haether no the teeth are twice as big]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haether no the teeth are twice as big</p>
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		By: Heather		</title>
		<link>https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-69</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2020 23:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-68&quot;&gt;Heather&lt;/a&gt;.

I expanded the table to go down to 40.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-68">Heather</a>.</p>
<p>I expanded the table to go down to 40.</p>
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		By: Heather		</title>
		<link>https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-68</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2020 02:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-67&quot;&gt;xavier&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting! If the teeth are the same size as the regular spirograph, it must be small! Can you send me a picture? 

Actually, given the wide range of rings in Wild Gears, expanding the table would be a good idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-67">xavier</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting! If the teeth are the same size as the regular spirograph, it must be small! Can you send me a picture? </p>
<p>Actually, given the wide range of rings in Wild Gears, expanding the table would be a good idea.</p>
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		By: xavier		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2020 04:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have an old 1990s hasbro spirograph with a circular ring that has only 48 teeth plus 7 wheels: 17,18,22,27,29,30,33. Too bad the list only starts at #50 ring.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an old 1990s hasbro spirograph with a circular ring that has only 48 teeth plus 7 wheels: 17,18,22,27,29,30,33. Too bad the list only starts at #50 ring.</p>
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		By: Ron Peters		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2018 18:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this table. It&#039;s been a great help for sorting out the most usefull epitrochoids using the wheels. It is now easy to combine different outside wheels for a nice result with equal petals. Too bad the chart starts only at wheel 50, but there is very very much to try and figuring out!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this table. It&#8217;s been a great help for sorting out the most usefull epitrochoids using the wheels. It is now easy to combine different outside wheels for a nice result with equal petals. Too bad the chart starts only at wheel 50, but there is very very much to try and figuring out!</p>
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		By: Scott		</title>
		<link>https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-65</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2017 01:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-60&quot;&gt;Catherine&lt;/a&gt;.

You can also download an excel spreadsheet from here:
https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-design-a-laser-cut-Spirograph-like-toy/
The instructable includes the formula to make your own sheet if you&#039;re so inclined.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-60">Catherine</a>.</p>
<p>You can also download an excel spreadsheet from here:<br />
<a href="https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-design-a-laser-cut-Spirograph-like-toy/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-design-a-laser-cut-Spirograph-like-toy/</a><br />
The instructable includes the formula to make your own sheet if you&#8217;re so inclined.</p>
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		By: Heather		</title>
		<link>https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-64</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Heather]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 02:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-63&quot;&gt;Charles Tomberlin&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, the fixed gear is along the top and the moving gear is down the side. The formula in cell B2 is =LCM(B$1,$A2)/$A2. I could delete the impossible combinations where the moving gear is larger than the ring. However, those numbers are useful for epitrochoids in cases where a large gear moves around the outside of a smaller fixed gear.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://spirographicart.com/expanded-table-points-drawing-hypotrochoids-epitrochoids/#comment-63">Charles Tomberlin</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, the fixed gear is along the top and the moving gear is down the side. The formula in cell B2 is =LCM(B$1,$A2)/$A2. I could delete the impossible combinations where the moving gear is larger than the ring. However, those numbers are useful for epitrochoids in cases where a large gear moves around the outside of a smaller fixed gear.</p>
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